Pastor Brian Zahnd sits down with host Joey Svendsen and podcast regular Jack Hoey, to talk about heaven and how it should inform a Christian’s perspective on life. In his newest book, "Unseen Existence: Of Heaven, Earth, and the Divine Mystery in All Things,” Brian asserts that Christians and churches losing sight of heaven causes disenchanted souls, an impact reflected in our culture. In this conversation, Joey, Jack, and Brian discuss what heaven actually is, whether people continue to learn and grow there, why heaven won’t be boring despite being eternal, and how a proper understanding of heaven will radically change everything, including how one engages in prayer, politics, and daily living.