A “sister duo” joins this episode, as Katie Walters co-hosts with Joey Svendsen to talk to Katie’s sister, Pastor Jess Connolly. Katie and Jess share about the special bond they have and how Katie, who was once a domineering big sister when they were kids, now has a "mamma bear" defensiveness toward anyone who talks negatively about Jess on social media. Birthed out of a very painful season for their family, Jess just released her newest book, What Comes Next: 40 Days of Healing After Heartbreak, Burnout, or Brokenness. As Joey discovers the book’s content and learns about Jess’s motivation for writing it, the three discuss contentment and how one finds it. They also reflect on the idea of "surviving versus thriving," the meaning of Jess saying "everything happens for me to form me,” and "kingdom rewards" that come from pain. Pastor Jess also shares why she refuses to sing certain worship songs that churches often include in their worship services.